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Willow Hall Breakage Class 11/22/99
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You say, "ok, it has been twenty-five minutes since i said five minutesfrom
now then"
You say, "Ok, let us start."
You say, "There are 3 possible structures for your item. Completely
Intact,Degraded, or Catastrophically broken."
Trini asks, "what about shattered?"
You say, "catastrophically means it will never be able to be swungagain"
You say, "same thing"
You say, "even if ya run out to icemule from the landing and dont stopto
hunt but get hit along the way"
You say, "Catastrophic Breakage occurs when you ignore your items andthe
integrity whittles down to nothing thereby allowing a rapier to breakyour
claidhmore. "
You say, "Catastrophic breakage occurs when the strength of your weaponis
lower than your target and the end roll is above your weapon'sdurability."
You say, "Breakage CAN occur when you are walking through kobolds andone
gets off a lucky swing if the weapon that the kobold is using has a higherST
than the item you have and the d100 roll is higher than your items DUthen
it can catastrophically break. If its not higher, than you will sufferintegrity
degredation of your item. "
You say, "for example"
You say, "kobold sword clashes your sword, kob sword st:40 du:50"
You say, "your sword is st:30 du: 140"
You say, "of those numbers, the first thing looked at is the st of
bothswords"
You say, "so now we go on to the risk of catastrohphic breakage"
You ask, "which sword will risk it?"
You ask, "your sword...why?"
You ask, "anyone tell me why?"
Dorinn says, "mine it's st is lower"
Henklinn asks, "Weaker?"
Despirot says, "its weaker"
You say, "yes"
You say, "so now we dismiss the kobold sword"
You say, "we look at your durability"
You say, "yer durabilty is 140"
You say, "the dRoll is 67"
You say, "there is NO catastrophic breakage on that clash"
You say, "however"
You say, "if the dRoll was 140 or greater than 140, your sword is gone"
You say, "let's try an example"
Dorinn asks, "repearable at all?"
You say, "not repairable"
Windrake asks, "what do I get to hit?"
Trini asks, "want to smash my shield?"
You remove a massive glaes logging axe reinforced with golvern from inyour
chain link harness.
You say, "naw, use my axe"
You say, "better example if it goes wrong as i hope it does"
Trini says, "the crystal shatters nicely"
You say, "ok"
You say, "correct"
Trini says, "it's gone"
You say, "nope"
Trini asks, "eh?"
You say, "it survives"
You ask, "windrake, which sword risks catastrophic damage?"
You say, "axe rather"
Suorveirg asks, "whos numbers are whos numbers?"
Dorinn says, "both du's over that number"
You say, "90/200 is his"
Windrake says, "yer axe is stronger"
You say, "94/220 is mine"
You ask, "and therefore, windrake, what axe breaks if the Droll was
over220?"
You say, "200 rather"
say, "200 all it takes"
You say, "and also...to clarify, even if the Droll was say 384"
You say, "my axe had no risk of catastrophic breakage"
Windrake asks, "so a 99/215 is better than a 95/220?"
You say, "from that initial clash"
Suorveirg says, "because yer st was higher or du or both"
You say, "in my opinion, yes"
You say, "let's step back and reorganize"
You say, "lotta info just flew by"
You say, "my axe had no risk because it was higher than his axe in STand
that is all that matters at this poin"
You say, "once the 2 ST's battle, the loser is the only one we
careabout"
You say, "reminder, we are also speaking under 100% integrity"
You ask, "any questions?"
You say, "ye have da floor"
Dorinn asks, "Will the roll show the degeneration of our weapon or dowe
need to look at it?"
You say, "you will need to examine it"
You say, "as of this moment anyways"
Trini says, "so the only way to try a weapon out is to test it first
againstyour opponent"
You say, "at this moment yes"
Trini asks, "how will we know if we are being foolish to even walk throughan
area?"
You say, "one thing is for certain, warriors will not be able to
assessthem"
Windrake says, "too bad"
You say, "such has been declared"
Trini says, "thats not good"
Windrake says, "then they need to be tested againt weak items"
Trini says, "looks like we die alot till it gets settled"
Trini says, "stock up on deeds once it's starts"
Suorveirg says, "aye..one shot the leather is gone, next shot the shieldis
gone...tehn its buh bye"
You say, "i do not want to say unoffical things but there is talk
amongOphion's area that there will be verbs for such things"
Trini says, "hunting below level will get more out of hand too"
Suorveirg nods.
You say, "ST/DU numbers are always referenced in a clash. So as long asyour
shield and weapon have higher ST than a kobold's short sword... thereis NO
chance they will break."
You say, "that statement is true however, there is more than meets
theeye"
You say, "now we will talk about under 100%"
You ask, "am i confusing anyone in this transition?"
Dorinn says, "not yet"
Trini says, "no I know it gets worse"
Trini sighs.
Windrake says, "yer doing good so far"
You say, "ok"
You exclaim, "Coraesine waraxe clashes with logging axe!"
You say, "[STR/DU: 90/200 vs. 94/220, d100(Open)= 58]"
You say, "that is our example"
You say, "let us say windrake was hunting "
You say, "and did not repair his weapon before his next hunt (which wewill
talk about as soon as the foundation of the example is made)"
You say, "as a result, Windrake's axe is at 75% integrity"
Dorinn says, "ya do this a lot Windrake"
Windrake says, "too much"
You say, "but I repaired my axe so it is at 100% integrity"
Trini says, "I've never seen one last long enough to get to 75 percent"
You say, "[STR/DU: 90/200 vs. 94/220, d100(Open)= 58] is no morecorrect"
You say, "90/200 is based on a 100% integrity"
Trini nods.
Windrake asks, "so the durability goes down yet it won't tell you?"
Suorveirg asks, "68/150?"
You say, "yes"
You say, "as of this moment"
You say, "it will not tell you during the clash"
You say, "there is talk among Ophion's area that this will change,
butunofficial in that it isnt done yet"
You say, "68/150"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You say, "i will say this fifteen more times"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
Suorveirg says, "Windrake ya really outta take care of yer stuff better"
Trini just tried to pull you towards her!
You exclaim, "st and du go down!"
You say, "ok"
Henklinn exclaims, "st and du go down!"
You say, "thats fifteen"
Dewtey asks, "hmmm think he's tryin to make a point?"
Dorinn says, "maybe"
You say, "my prediction is, that is where most weapon will break, peoplewill
forget both go down"
You say, "i say weapon but mean weapon shield and armor"
Trini asks, "you mean it lies when ya look in a fight?"
You say, "as of this moment...."
You say, "if you find yer weapon says 75% integrity"
You say, "and get such as this"
Someone says, "ya in trouble"
You say, "it is false"
You say, "at this moment"
Trini says, "sheesh"
Trini says, "no wonder my shield pops like corn"
Windrake says, "but I would never let it get that low"
Trini says, "it never says it's that bad"
Trini says, "worst I saw was 96%"
You say, "that will change when it is live"
Trini says, "was trying to see how low it would get"
You say, " a review:"
You say, "The exact way integrity effects your ST/DU is take the integrity%
and multiply it by the ST/DU thats your true ST/DU. i.e. if your at 70%integrity
and your item is 99/200 you will have a true ST/DU of 69.3/140.70x99=69.3
and .70x200=140."
You ask, "any questions?"
You say, "The easiest way to do this is break it down into 2 parts. Okfirst
lets say you have a weapon that is 50/200, and you are clashing againstanother
weapon that is 30/150. Ok when there is a clash you take the strengthsof
the two weapons in this case your weapon is 50 the other is 30. "
You say, "That means right there that your weapon cannot break becauseits
strength is higher than the strength of the other weapon. (part oneover)."
You say, "Part 2 is that there is a d100 open roll, if that roll is higherthan
the durability of the weaker strength weapon (in this case 150) thatweapon
shatters. If it is lower than the durability of the weaker weaponit doesn't
break. Both weapons will always suffer some integrity loss ona clash also."
Trini says, "ok one more question"
Trini says, "ojh ya naswered it"
Trini says, "erm it's answered"
You say, "If you have a weapon that is 50/200 and at 50% integrity, bringingit
down to 25/100. Then it clashes with the 30/150 weapon (which is at
100%integrity), the d100 open roll would be against the 25/100 weapon, so
ifthe d100 open roll was over 100 it would catastrophically break it."
You say, "and that is all I have for you."
You ask, "any questions, any at all?"
Trini says, "so we can figure out what we should start saving for"
Dorinn asks, "for a breakage the droll has to be higher than the du ofthe
attacking weapon?"
Dorinn asks, "or the defending one?"
You say, "no"
You say, "for a catastrophic breakage the droll has to be higher thanthe
du of the item with the weaker ST"
Dorinn says, "I get it"
Suorveirg asks, "so the critters always fix their weapons?"
Suorveirg asks, "so is it safe to say that after each critter we shouldfix
our property before we move on?"
Dorinn asks, "Will we be able to look at a critters armor and see
itsintegrity?"
You say, "i'd like to add some thing actually"
You say, "after the armor is on the ground of course"
You say, "but that brings a good idea up to propose"
You ask, "why couldnt you technically look at someone and they have aweapon
in hand and get a rough estimate of the shape it is in?"
You say, "that is something to definately propose"
Despirot asks, "do we have a time frame in which breakage will be back?"
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You say, "but ya know the gods with dates"
You say, "ok, i have a few more things to say"
You ask, "Will clashing not effect weapons and shields if the DS is
horriblyhigher then the AS?"
You say, " AS/DS does not affect breakage."
Suorveirg asks, "no kind of bonus?"
You say, " As long as the hands are clear and the attacker cannot damageyou.
There is no breakage occurence. AS/DS model is independent and exclusiveof
the breakage system. "
Trini says, "not yer shield"
You say, "let's talk a lil bout coverage"
You ask, "Do greaves or aventails only add to the weight if you are
wearingfull coverage armor If that assumption is correct, does breakage kill
thecovering part or the armor?"
Dorinn says, "good question"
You say, "Whole armor coverage supercedes component coverage where themain
armor worn does not cover, if there is a component armor worn, thatitem will
take the damage. "
You say, " items clashing over top of full coverage items is a bug andbeing
fixed eventually"
You say, "Armor components worn over existing main armor coverage isconsidered
to be cosmetic and does not affect combat determinations."
Henklinn asks, "Is the item coverage for eyeballs a bug too?"
Henklinn says, "There's not supposed to be any armor for eyes.."
Henklinn says, "But if you run a monster with head/neck protection throughhis
eye.. you'll clash his leathers.."
You say, "critters are being constructed specifically to their own
system,eyes, mandibles, talons, scales, hooks, claws, beaks, noses, third
leg."
You say, "the critter armor must be full protect"
You say, "which explains why ya clash with leathers to the face"
You say, "leather numbers are low, considering half the players
arespellcasters."
You say, "Armor STR/DU are under consideration"
Dorinn asks, "so would it be better to have stronger armor ya think?"
You say, "but don't expect to see leather and cloth armor to
gainSTRength."
You ask, "as opposed to?"
Trini asks, "chain or plate?"
Dorinn says, "the leathers"
Dorinn says, "such as brig compared to double or chain even"
Trini says, "or do ya mean durability"
Dorinn asks, "would it be better to have brig and double leather
forprotection?"
You say, "higher the level of armor, the better"
You say, "im not sure if that answers"
You say, "my suggestion, though i see the big-time flailing problems isto
learn to wear at least brigadine"
You say, "even ya rangers"
You say, "many of ya go to brig instinctavely"
You say, "but some settle for double leather"
Trini says, "almost there now thank my isight early on"
You say, "which, if that tickles ya fancy"
You say, "go for it"
You say, "problem with da brig for yas is ya risk failures with spells"
You say, "especially if ya use tangle weed, spike thorn to combat andeven
117"
You say, "17 mana wasted is can be a big problem on a hunt"
Trini says, "I think it will take a scoping of hunting grounds to decidewhat
to use"
You say, "let's move to repairing items"
You say, "there will be a maintancence system"
You say, "field repair kits will be made available"
You say, "There are only 3 possible states for an item: undamaged, degraded,or
CF and removed from game. "
You say, "cf= catastrophically fractured"
You say, "When an item is degraded, it may be repaired to a certain extentfrom
field repair
kits. "
You say, "Skill in weapons, armor, guild and profession bonuses applyto
the magnitude of the 'fix'. "
You say, "another 15 times point coming up"
You say, "A fix may or may not be beneficial."
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You ask, "any taxadermists here?"
You say, "well anyone that does art"
You say, "paints, draws. ect..."
You say, "can grab this"
You say, "ya stink at drawing your first bunch of times and prolyl haveworked
on the same object several times over and over again"
You say, "it takes a lot of work and only way to get better is to
keepdrawing"
You say, "cuz in drawing, ya can redefine lines"
You say, "basically if ya working on something for your first few times,yer
gonna suck"
You say, "pardon my blunt word"
You say, "practice, training, researching weapon skill"
Trini asks, "so skill and bonus plays in as well?"
Trini asks, "so younger characters will have a real hard time?"
You say, " Skill in weapons, armor, guild and profession bonuses apply"
You say, "they will most likely use the conviently deployed repairshops"
Trini says, "well they can't institute it till everyone has a guildthen"
You say, "here is a perfect example"
You say, "who goes to get a box unlocked by edwina's husband, heck i forgothis
name or even goes to surtey anymore? i remember sitting there a longtime
chatting with people while being healed."
You say, "rarely anyone does"
Trini says, "no one I know he charges more than the worth of the box"
Suorveirg says, "looks like the west tower will be the fix it shop, likethe
east tower is the pickin shop"
You say, "with time as people get better, ya wont need to aquire the
servicesof a repairshop"
You say, "I remember someone requesting a dummy to test breakage insteadof
havin to run around testing it on critters"
Dorinn asks, "A crash test dummy?"
You say, "there is a possibility of having a kind of tilting dummy,
orquintain, or mannequin, or some such, set up in a public place
(locker-style:many rooms, all the same) that you ALWAYS clash with"
You say, "there is also a plan to redo the DUR of leathers"
You say, "i shoulda mentioned that before"
Trini says, "I think you did kinda"
Trini says, "you said all armor was maybe going to be rethought"
You say, "yeah but not the ST of leathers"
You say, "let's talk about alterations"
You say, "I had some +32 imflass brigadine altered a long time ago"
You say, "had it made into a flashy veniom banded krodera plate"
You say, "it is still the imflass strength"
You say, "the alteration is cosmetic only"
There were no more questions and class was promptly dismissed...classlasted
2 and a half hours.
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